My friend Judi spends some time hatin' on promoters who don't give out equal prizes and don't give equal dignity (e.g. the same classes and billing as the men's field) to women's races.
As a promoter I would *love* to have an equal number of women's and men's classes, with equal prize lists.
As a promoter with ties to a bunch of volunteer cyclists and amateur, non-profit clubs, however, I can't do this in my races and I'm pretty sure it isn't possible in the races that I have ties to. Most grassroots (volunteer and non-profit) race promoters are in the same boat.
The reason is very simple. Amateur cycling doesn't get commercial dollars, so we rely on the contributions of the racers (race entry fees) to pay costs and to subsidize prize lists. We cannibalize our male Cat 4, Cat 3 and masters racers in order to grow the sport in the women's and juniors' classes, and to support the elites. There's a limit to how much meat you can pick of those bones. It's not about what we want to do; it's about how much money is available.
Sure, generous sponsors also support our racing habit - an inexplicable thing for which I am unbelievably grateful. But the sponsors only get you so far, and they tend to prefer to give swag rather than cash, for fairly obvious business reasons. If an amateur race can't sustain itself from entry fees, the only way to pay for the race is to soak club members with fees to help pay for other people to race. As it is, the filled classes subsidize the less filled classes - that little bit of weekly wealth transfer from M racers is bad enough. I can't imagine also telling members of a velo club that not only must they volunteer to work a race, but oh-by-the-way your membership dues are going up $50 this year because the sponsors went away but we still need to subsidize more prize lists in classes that aren't economically viable. That isn't a sustainable approach.
Let's look at some representative numbers for a road race to see how this works. This isn't particularly tied to any race, not my club's or anybody else's; but I know how much a lot of the basic services cost in Montgomery County and the surrounding areas, so it could apply to anybody's race in that area; and your local costs may be lower but the basic principles still apply.
Fixed Cost Problem
At a road race, there are fixed costs. Facility rental will be maybe $1000 for parking, water, electricity, and so on. Porta potties may be another $500. You may need 4 cops to police intersections, and another 6 or so to operate the rolling enclosure for the pack. You need a couple motor refs per race, plus three or four to manage scoring and control the refs on the road. By the time you are done, each race will have a fixed cost of around $900 - $1100, depending on how lavishly you want cops & refs to support the breakaways. It doesn't matter if 3 racers are going, or 125. It will cost that much to have the field, before you start working out a prize list and cash payouts. There are other ways to try to allocate the costs (e.g. per capita) but that doesn't make a lot of sense when you consider that cops + refs for a field will be ~$600 alone, and that opportunity cost is attached to the choice of which fields to offer.
Limited Fields Problem
In crits, particularly non-series lower level crits, you have some flexibility to add fields. You can sort of shaft the Cat 5's with a 30 minute race, cut the 35+ to 40 minutes plus one lap, start a little early and end a little late. Road races typically don't have that flexibility. On a typical 8-11 mile roadrace "lap" that we see around D.C., you can safely fit three fields on it at the same time, and I use the term "safely" guardedly. You start the classes at 9:00, 9:01 and 9:02, with the faster classes going earlier.
The problem you run into is that if the 9:00 runs as a bunch, they will hammer it at 27 MPH for nearly three hours. Toward the end, they will definitely run into the 9:02 race, particularly if a break in the 9:02 has been away for a long time and several teams are represented. The pack will slow because the real race is up the road, and the 9:00 race will essentially slam into the back of the cruising 9:02 race, having lapped it. With more fields the risk of mixing up fields and causing danger and confusion is high, and it's not nice to make the refs try to orchestrate tricky field neutralization, then pass the faster field through the slower one (and what about the break up the road while the fields are neutralized?) With roadraces running 2-3 hours, you get 3 fields in the morning around here, and 3 in the afternoon, and that's it. No more. You *can* do multiple prize lists in a given field (allowing you to sort of lump together odd fields here and there, like 55+, juniors, etc) but there is no room at all to shove in additional fields, so you need to figure out how to allocate field space, which is the scarcest of our resources.
The Subsidy
We have prize lists in the elite races because we have to have them - it's the law, per the sanctioning bodies anyhow, and because a lot of elite racers won't come out unless the payout is at least decent. The elite fields should be big enough to support their own race a little bit, but you need a bigger-than-minimum payout to draw anything near a break-even field. What is break-even? Assuming $1100 fixed costs, break even in the elites (with a $500 payout) and big trophies is 55-60 riders. It's tough to pull that unless the weather is good and there's no decent roadraces going down in the region. The break-even point for a field without cash payouts is about 35 riders, assuming $1100 fixed costs.
This creates a bit of a problem for promoters. The Cat 5 race eats up a field spot, and with a limit of 50 riders it is barely self-supporting. The M Elite and W Elite are rarely self-supporting; at best one hopes to break even. The W 3 and W 4 tend to be pretty small and late registering typically; if a roadrace manages 35 W3 and W4 starters, it's doing pretty well. Keep in mind each of those fields has a separate prizelist, if not a separate start.
So at the start of the day, the promoter knows the Cat 5 and M 1/2/3 are going to be around break-even, possibly money losers depending on prizes and payouts awarded, and the W 1/2/3 will probably lose quite a bit of money. The W 3/4 will quite possibly be a money loser, bank on that if there are separate prize lists and if they start separately with two rolling enclosures, 4 refs and so forth. Nevermind the juniors, who will get their own class and their own rolling enclosure, usually with a dozen or so racers - we just cram them in there somewhere that we believe will be a safe spot for them to race in.
To put it very simply, the promoter has to look to the remaining 2-3 field slots to subsidize everybody else's racing. Most of the time, those classes are some combination of M3 and M4, and the M 35+.
The Quandary
Does the promoter want to avoid jeopardizing the non-profit club's bank balance? If so, then the promoter will consider an M3, an M4, and an M 1/2/3/4 35+, or perhaps an M 3/4, and an M 35+ 4/5 and 35+ 1/2/3/4, or some similar combination. Those fields will fill up with riders, and their entry fees will subsidize the classes that lose money. The classes in these three fields make it possible for the promoter to hold the other classes. It's very simple math:
75 racers x $ 30 entry fee = $ 2250The $750 or more in 'profit' realized in those sold out men's classes underwrite the other classes and cover losses that no non-profit velo club could afford to sustain over a period of years.
So how many women's fields ought we to have?
Different Solutions to the Women's Racing Problem
A lot of promoters have one women's field. It's 1/2/3/4, with separate prize lists for the 3 and 4. This is the easiest solution from a promoter's standpoint because it allows the promoters to have 3 or even 4 races that are "profit" centers, an M 1/2/3 race that maybe loses some money, and a women's *field* that breaks even at least on fixed costs. With the normal fee structure in this reagion, there's no profit to speak of in running a road race, or at best there is a very modest profit. (Why do you think that guy in Pennsylvania who runs races for profit charges $47?)
This solution, however, sucks for W 3/4 racers. Many women I have spoken to who race tell me that there is a jump between 4 and 3, and another jump between 3 and 2, and races that don't recognize this suck with riders stuck in no-man's land for up to 2.5 hours. Yuck.
My preference, if it is affordable, is to break the W 3/4 into a separate field and run it apart from the W 1/2/3, even if both fields are a money loser, providing sufficient revenue can be generated from the Men's fields to underwrite the extra class. The Cat 3/4 men and the Masters pick up the tab for my choice. Consequently, payouts in those two races (and across the board) are lower than I would like, because I don't have that nice profit center of a third race to generate extra cash flow. Yet the arrangement provides a comfortable place for entry-level women to race and that should be conducive to growing women's racing, so that's why I prefer it. It's a tough call though and causes some lost sleep for promoters and velo club management, especially in the days just before a race when the pre-registered riders list is small. You see 11 women registered for the 1/2/3, or 18 registered in the 3/4 a couple days before the race and the first impulse is to wonder why you are even bothering to offer those fields, particularly in light of the 35 men on the Cat 4 and Cat 5 waiting lists...
What's a promoter to do? Usually, suck it up. It's tough though. In our current economic atmosphere, barring great sponsorship, a promoter who splits the W 1/2/3 and W 3/4 into two separate classes likely has to either cut payouts, or raise the entry fee for everybody to $35 or $40; or some combination of cutting and raising. It's tough to swap a money-making 75 rider field for an 18 or 26 or 35 rider field.
Now please don't blow your top about this; I'm a guy who works really hard to have equal payouts for M and W 1/2/3 racers in the competitions I'm involved in; I prefer to have at least separate prize lists for three of the four women's categories. But the racer numbers are just not there to support this, so I rob from Peter to pay Pauline, and I'm being honest with you about the process. I don't like doing that but it's the cost of doing business if a promoter is trying to grow the women's fields. (Nothing would make me happier than a W 3/4 with 75 racers registered for it; it would be a lot less headaches for grassroots promoters and clubs).
Sample Spreadsheets
I use a very simple spreadsheet to mull over the question of cash payouts and fields when thinking about future races and look at comparable races, and how many racers attend in which fields. Since I'm trying to explain a complicated subject, race finances, I thought it might be informative to cut and paste numbers corresponding with the hypothetical race we're discussing, so that you see the point I'm making.
In the top table, we have a W 1/2/3 race and separate field with a W 3/4 race. The promoter gets wiped out, losing $430 on the race by splitting the fields thusly.
In contrast, the lower table shows a slate where the W 1/2/3 and W 3/4 are started at the same time, but with separate rolling enclosures cramming the fields together and maybe causing some unhappiness. This allows the inclusion elsewhere in the schedule of a M 35+ 4/5, a race that is a big profit center. Rather than losing $430, the promoter makes $1220, which can then be split up between the fields that receive cash payouts, and maybe some can be diverted into capital improvements with the non-profit club sponsoring the event, such as better road safety signs for marking the course. The difference is pretty stark.
| Time Slots | Class | # of Racers | Entry Fees | Fixed Cost | Payout | Trophies / Medals | Net Profit/Loss |
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| | M 35+ 1/2/3/4 | 71 | 2250 | 1100 | 250 | 150 | 750 |
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| | M 4 | 75 | 2250 | 1100 | 250 | 150 | 750 |
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| | M 5 | 50 | 1500 | 1100 | 0 | 110 | 290 |
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| | M | 52 | 1560 | 1100 | 500 | 150 | -190 |
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| | W | 23 | 690 | 1100 | 500 | 150 | -1060 |
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| | W 3/4 (separate prize lists) | 26 | 780 | 1100 | 350 | 300 | -970 |
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| | M 35+ 1/2/3/4 | 71 | 2250 | 1100 | 250 | 150 | 750 |
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| | M 4 | 75 | 2250 | 1100 | 250 | 150 | 750 |
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| | M 5 | 50 | 1500 | 1100 | 0 | 110 | 290 |
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| | M | 52 | 1560 | 1100 | 500 | 150 | -190 |
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| | W | 49 | 1470 | 1450 | 850 | 300 | -1130 |
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| | M 35+ 4/5 | 75 | 2250 | 1100 | 250 | 150 | 750 |
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| | | | | | | | 1220 |
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| *M5 limited to 50 riders, no cash payout | | | | | |
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| **Added 1 cop, 1 ref to combined W race for extra rolling enclosure for 3/4 | | | |
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The Solution
There's no permanent fix for financial pressures, not in racing and not in real life. But the solution to the request to provide more fields and money for women racers, at least at the amateur and regional level, is to get more women racing, to fill up existing classes, which would justify adding more classes. As it is, it kind of stinks that the men are basically picking up the tab for women's racing. The money that a class of amateur racers plows into racing should come back to them. It's not just about the prize lists and swag; it's about improving the quality of races, and maybe dropping fees where the non-profit grassroots races are involved. But we do it because most of us existing racers and promoters and club managers like to see more women in racing - that's true of the women and the men I know. If we can build up large women's classes, and the careful calculation about exactly how much women's racing a promoter can afford to sponsor will go away. So will the promoter guilt over using a couple full, very hard working men's classes to underwrite *everybody* else, including the M 1/2/3.
How do we do this? I suppose you could start by getting your club to encourage women to join. It's hard to build up a critical mass of racing women, but once it's there, it's a lot easier for them to network, recruit, and build up a solid racing cadre.
The second thing is to try to ensure development of the amateur women's classes is sustainable. I don't think they have to be profitable; I do believe, however, that they have to be break even, or at least be moving toward that. It's great to have equal payouts and lots of women's classes, but you can only do that once or twice if the cost is crippling to a race or the club that holds it. Building up the women's fields means calling women you may know and encouraging them to start racing, or calling your female racer friends and dragging them out to the races when you don't see their name on the confirmed riders list. Full fields mean joy for everybody, and full fields (or at least fuller fields) means women will get expanded opportunities and growing rewards for racing.
10 comments:
It's a shame that this is such a "wet my hands and grab the third rail" issue. There's no reason it should be, and most of the women I talk to have nothing but sympathy for promoters and the will to find a solution. You and I are both very aware of what I'm leaving unsaid here.
Women's novice fields seem to me to be larger this year. They also seemed to largely be peopled with some quite competent athletes. I think there's been an influx, but I don't have the charts and graphs to back me up. my most significant data point to bring to bear on the question is that the quite well attended W4 field at Coppi caught and passed the also quite well attended W123 field, which started 2:00 ahead of them. What caused this influx and how can it be perpetuated?
One big barrier to women entering the sport is buying equipment. Walk into most bike shops with a woman, claim complete personal ignorance and that you're just there to hold her purse, and watch what happens. It ain't good. People have started companies in response to less.
If there is a reason and a will to popularize racing among women, then it's the racing community that's got to make it happen, and when I say that I don't just mean the women in the racing community.
I'm interested to see what comments come in on this one.
You and I are both very aware of what I'm leaving unsaid here.
There's no emoticon for "just peed my pants laughing" but if there was I'd be making it, repeatedly. Yeah, I expect it's going to be a lightning rod but unless & until people are aware of the economics of putting on races, we can't have a productive conversation about How To Treat Women Racers Better. Judy's thing was a bit of a rant and a lot of the comments in response were ranty, so I wanted to lay one promoter's thought processes out there. I know you're pretty analytic and have expressed some of the same concerns I have so I expected you'd comment about it. I suspect some really strong negative reactions too from a few people who don't approach it from a balance sheet / long term sustainability viewpoint. I don't feel a need to get such folks to agree with me, but I think the other positions should be aired so we can have a discussion at least.
Your explanation is SPOT ON... as a racer, promoter, women's team captain.. I do everything I can to encourage women to race. In VCA we have actually had several races with really lost money.. WHY? Because the women DID NOT come and race. There are several ladies that have been hurt this season and just cannot race. BUT, when you run two separate fields like I did in my event a W1/2/3 and a W 4 / 40+ event with SEPARATE pay out for the 1/2, 3, 4 and 40+
Totatl of 27 women raced and some of those raced twice.
SO even when a promoter has sepaate races, so the CAT 4 women aren't racing against the 1/2/3s the women dont' show. We have to continue to encourage promoters to at least have separate by outs.. BUT dang it LADIES have to support the races and TOE the line.. or we're gonna lose our chance to race...
Sharon
Nicely argued..."strong" to "quite strong".
I agree with Sharon. I have skipped several women's races this season for various reasons (such as injury), and I feel bad about it every time, because I can talk up a race until I'm blue in the face but hardly any of my teammates or friends will show up as a result of my efforts.
One way to reduce some money loss is to skip paying cash money to a W4 field. Use that free sponsor-supplied swag instead. As a 4, getting a water bottle stuffed with gel packets or a package of bar tape was ok for me. I'd rather see W4 entry fees cut by $5 relative to the other senior fields (if possible...maybe this just works for crits) than to see the top 3 getting a cash prize. I think this is how Chantilly worked this year. IIRC, the W4 field had some strong numbers there.
I have always wondered what makes CX racing so much more popular around here for women. What are road races doing wrong?
Catherine -
Are you secretly tapped into the conversation my spouse and I are having over this issue?
Is CX participation really that much better among women? I don't know, but it seems like one of those things that's taken for granted but never quantified. IF IT IS, I'd suggest that one of the big reasons is that road racing is really pretty f-ing hard. Not that CX isn't, but your ability to stay with the group is less at a premium in a CX race. Get dropped from a crit and pack your stuff and leave. Get dropped in a CX race and keep going and going and your experience is pretty much the same as for all but a few. I think that's why tri's and marathons are so popular. In bike racing, there is no 5 hour "A for effort" marathon (not to diminish that as an accomplishment, it's just a VERY different thing from a road race).
So I don't think it's what road RACES are doing wrong, it's more what road RACING is doing wrong.
Of the times I've been on the podium, gotten paid, etc (which is a fair few but not that many), the one I'll remember when I'm an old man rocking on the front porch (about a month and a half from now) is Jeff Cup this year, where for my result I got bupkus. The race is its own reward. I bet if you had a survey that asked women who might race why they don't, and gave 20 different answer choices, "LACK OF ADEQUATE CASH PRIZES" would be at or very near the bottom.
I agree with you Chuck on participation. I wonder, do you think there are 'You got dropped' blogs out there for tri's and marathons. ..don't think so.
Jim--great post and great case. I also totally agree about there not being a need for a prize list at the lowest category. I don't do this for the money, and I don't ever expect that I'll make anything more than enough to cover some entry fees on the few occasions I do do okay. At the most, it's a nice little surprise bonus a few times a year, but not *anything* that factors into my decision about whether or not to race.
You and I have talked about this Jim, and I agree that it is perfectly acceptable to give swag instead of cash to novice fields. You know, maybe not *every* race has to have a field for Cat 1s and Cat 2s (men or women) and that maybe some races should be specifically geared towards offering more opportunities for the lower categories and masters. With less races for the 1/2s (the women in particular), that might force them to show up in higher numbers. One thing I will say is that promoters need to stop haranguing women about registering early. LET IT GO. That shit drives me nuts and I'm often the first one to (pre)register. It's like you've won the lottery but they force you to eat a shit sandwich before giving you the big check. When will they learn that the carrot is more effective than the stick, particularly with women?
I'm fairly certain that if one analyzed the women's numbers for cross and road, we'd find that there is overall higher participation in cross, although maybe only by 10-20%.
Sharon & Catherine - thanks for the kind words, and for the good ideas about cost-shifting.
I think 'cross seems a little more popular with women for the reasons ChuckWagon cited. Also, 'cross draws from the well-staffed ranks of female MTB racing, along with roadracing. While there seems to be roughly equivalent numbers of men racing road and MTB, the women's fields seem proportionally fuller in MTB. So I think it's a case of more pre-existing customers for our racers.
Uff Da - the idea of offering fewer W Elite classes - and fewer M Elite classes at the same time - is appealing to me. I'd love to promote a road race that had W4/W3, M5, M4, M3, M 4/5 35+, and M 1/2/3/4 35+. That would be a well attended, gi-normous prize list race.
As for pre-registration - it makes the registration table's job much easier at races, and it also is important for promoters gauge how much to dole out on the prize list. I go with a $500 minimum for the Tacchino because if one or two classes ignore the race, it's not feasible to go higher. We thankfully have *great* support in the W3 and W4, along with the M4, M 3/4 Masters. The M 3/4 and the M 1/2/3 35+ pulls its weight too, so having a couple elite fields that are money losers isn't a big concern. Not knowing roughly how many racers to expect on race day makes it tough to bump up the prize list mid-week before the race and to advertise based on that bump. I imagine other promoters sit there looking at 3 racers pre-reg'ed on the Friday night before race day wondering if they shouldn't just pull the plug and cancel that particular field. I know we disagree on that but I call it the way I see it.
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